The Best Revenge, Episode 2: Rome

In this episode host Stephen Heiner and guest Dr. Thomas Fleming discuss the Eternal City: Rome. Topics covered include:

  • What makes it “eternal”?
  • What happened to Rome and the papal states during the so-called “unification” of Italy?
  • Why is the Victor Emmanuel monument an eyesore?
  • Piazza Navona: what you should know
  • The beauty of the Baths of Caracalla and the Colosseum
  • Some important tips for the visitor, including importantly, how to spot the best gelato and what kind of wine you might ask for
  • The legendary museum endurance of Gail Fleming
  • Why Rick Steves should be avoided

Original Air Date: February 27, 2016
Show Run Time: 1 hour 19 minutes
Show Guest(s): Dr. Thomas Fleming
Show Host(s): Stephen Heiner


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3 Responses

  1. James Droney says:

    This is an excellent podcast. I really enjoy these episodes. I wish the sound quality were a little better, though.

  2. Regis Moran says:

    Thank you Steven & Dr. Fleming! Please, more podcasts!!

  3. Stephen Heiner says:

    Mr Droney/Mr Moran – thanks for the kind words. We are working on the sound quality as Dr. Fleming and I create routines around these. Please be patient with us! 🙂